US-RPB-ms2010.001 Guide to the Tom Laperriere collection of Ernest Kurtz and Clarence Snyder recordings1946-2004 (bulk 1955-1985) Finding aid prepared by Deborah Peterson. Brown University Library 2010 February 16
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Laperriere, Thomas Tom Laperriere collection of Ernest Kurtz and Clarence Snyder recordings 1946-2004 (bulk 1955-1985) Laperriere (Tom) collection of Ernest Kurtz and Clarence Snyder recordings 11 linear feet (11 records center boxes) The Tom Laperriere collection of Ernest Kurtz and Clarence Snyder recordings comprises 377 compact disc recordings of talks, speeches and conference proceedings related to alcoholism treatment and Alcoholics Anonymous. Two-thirds of the recordings are copies of selected audiocassette tapes from the Clarence Snyder and Ernest Kurtz collections of the Brown University Library. The remaining discs contain audio recordings provided by Tom Laperriere and include an accompanying relational database and mp3 files. Nearly all of the recordings in the collection are present in duplicate. Ms. 2010.001 Biographical note

Clarence H. Snyder began Alcoholics Anonymous Group #3 in Cleveland, Ohio, which was the first group to call itself "AA." His major contributions include his work on sponsorship, setting up the first central office, his efforts to secure major newspaper features and articles on A.A., and his usage of the term "A.A. Group." For more complete biographical details see: Clarence Snyder A.A. Papers, 1939-1980, Ms. 2008.008

Ernest Kurtz's academic background is in American Civilization and Spirituality, and his writings include The Spirituality of Imperfection and Shame and Guilt. For nearly twenty years he taught at the Rutgers University Summer School of Alcohol Studies. Dr. Kurtz collected the recordings in this collection for his book Not God: a History of Alcoholics Anonymous, which is still considered the definitive account of the early days of AA. He is one of the first modern scholars to consider alcoholism and addiction within a larger psychological and religious context.

Tom Laperriere maintains the web site History of Recovery: voices of AAs past and present.

 Collection information

There are no restrictions on access for analog materials, except that the collection can only be seen by prior appointment. Some materials may be stored off-site and cannot be produced on the same day on which they are requested. All cassette tapes in this collection have been reformatted and can be accessed in the request link located in Series 1. For preservation reasons, original analog and digital media may not be read or played back in the reading room. Users may visually inspect physical media but may not remove it from its enclosure. Audiovisual digitization requests are processed by an approved third-party vendor. Please note, the transfer time required can be as little as several weeks to as long as several months and there may be financial costs associated with the process. Requests should be directed to hay@brown.edu.

Although Brown University has physical ownership of the collection and the materials contained therein, it does not claim literary rights. Researchers should note that compliance with copyright law is their responsibility. Researchers must determine the owners of the literary rights and obtain any necessary permissions from them.

Tom Laperriere collection of Ernest Kurtz and Clarence Snyder recordings, Ms. 2010.001, Brown University Library.

The Tom Laperriere collection of Ernest Kurtz and Clarence Snyder recordings is a comprehensive oral history of Alcoholics Anonymous contained on 377 compact discs arranged in four series.

Series 1. History of recovery, contains most of the first 167 recordings from the audiocassette series of the Clarence Snyder AA papers (Ms.2008.008: cassette nos. MK1-167).

Digital access copies are available for all of the audiocassette tapes. Click on this link to request access to the digital copies: Clarence Snyder (Ms.2008.008) audio recordings

Series 2. Clarence Snyder collection, is a 5-CD compilation of the Clarence Snyder talks from the first series.

Series 3. Alcohol awareness, contains most of the first 73 recordings from the Ernest Kurtz papers and audio cassettes (A2005.18 and A2008.049: cassette nos. EK168-240).

Digital access copies are available for all of the audiocassette tapes. Click on this link to request access to the digital copies: Ernest Kurtz (A2005.18) audio recordings

Series 4. Miscellaneous Alcoholics Anonymous recordings, includes 142 talks and speeches from the creator’s personal collection, mp3 files and a database of all the recordings in the series.

Series 1 and 3 are numbered consecutively; series 2 and 4 each have their own numbering. Some of the original recordings are not present in this collection. Most of the recordings were originally made on reel-to-reel tape and transferred to audiocassette tape, from which these digital copies were created.

Series 1. History of recovery (Clarence Snyder, MK1-MK167) Series 2. Clarence Snyder collection (culled from Ser. 1) Series 3. Alcohol awareness (Ernest Kurtz, EK168-EK240) Series 4. Miscellaneous Alcoholics Anonymous recordings

Administrative information

Gift of Thomas Laperriere, April 2004.

 Names Laperriere, Thomas Snyder, Clarence H., 1902-1984 Kurtz, Ernest Smith, Robert Holbrook, 1879-1950 W., Bill Lois, 1894-1988 Wing, Nell Ohliger, Paul, Dr. Kiebler, Paul Mann, Marty, 1904- Burwell, Jim Pfau, Ralph, Father Hemsley, Rollie Keller, Mark, 1907- Marsh, Earl, Dr. Paddock, Duke Craw, Anne Chisholm, Warren Gavin, M. Ignacia, Sister Subjects Alcoholics Anonymous Alcoholism RIAMCO Browsing Terms Health and Medicine Titles

Types of materials Compact discs Occupations

Functions

Additional information

Chester H. Kirk Collection on Alcoholism and Alcoholics Anonymous Alcohol, Temperance and Prohibition(Brown University Center for Digital Initiatives) Clarence Snyder AA Papers, Ms. 2008.008, Brown University Library Clarence Snyder AA Papers. Series 4 Audiocassettes, Ms.2008.008, Brown University Library Ernest Kurtz papers and audio cassettes, A2005.18 and A2008.049, Brown University Library Kirk Collection audiovisuals, HV5278 .K56x HAY ANNEX Robert Holbrook Smith ("Dr. Bob") collection, Ms. 2005.66, Brown University Library David C. Lewis papers, MS-1UF-L3, Brown University Archives Alcoholics Anonymous, 1939-1942 : the archives of the General Service Board of Alcoholics Anonymous, 3-SIZE HV5006 .A4323 1985 HAY STAR Alcohol and Addiction Studies Collections

Series 1 History of recovery 1946-1994

Corresponds to audiocassette nos. MK1-MK167 of the Clarence Snyder A.A. papers, Series 4: audiocassettes (Ms.2008.008) with some gaps.

Digital access copies are available for all of the audiocassette tapes. Click on this link to request access to the digital copies: Clarence Snyder (Ms.2008.008) audio recordings

1 1 MK1 Roy Yeargan, Long Beach, California 1966

2 copies

 1 1 MK2 and MK6 Casmir Lapinski, Westside Morning Group, Cleveland, Ohio undated 1 compact disc

"Got sober in 1942, Ohio area AA member." 3 copies

 1 1 MK3 Big Meeting tape 1, New Orleans, Louisiana 1980 2 compact discs

2 copies of CD1; 1 copy of CD2

 1 1 MK4 Tom Pike interview 1978 Aug

2 copies

 1 1 MK5 Al Marineaux interview 1976 Oct 30

2 copies

 1 1 MK7 and MK8 Eugene Edmiston, AA no. 26, interview 1976 Dec 4 3 compact discs

2 copies

 1 1 MK9 and MK10 Walter King interview, Newberry Park, California 1976 Nov 20 1 compact disc

2 copies

 1 1 MK11 Cecil "Teet" Carl, Valley Club, Los Angeles, California 1983 Dec 4

2 copies

 1 1 MK12 Dewey Spies, Cleveland, Ohio 1959 Oct 29

2 copies

 1 1 MK13 167 Live from Dr. Bob's home: 9 men, 400 years of sobriety undated

2 copies

 1 1 MK15 Rosa Burwell 1978 Aug

2 copies

 1 1 MK16 Frank Hoffman interview 1977 Jul 18

2 copies

 1 1 MK17 Russ Rathbone interview 1978 Aug 2 compact discs

2 copies

 1 1 MK18 John Parr Founders' Day talk 1978 Jun 10

2 copies

 1 2 MK19 Virginia McLeod interview, LaJolla, California, pt. 1 1977 Jul 8

"Beginnings of AA," 2 copies

 1 2 MK20 Virginia McLeod interview, LaJolla, California, pt. 2 1977 Jul 8

"Beginnings of AA," 2 copies

 1 2 MK21 Virginia McLeod interview, LaJolla, California, pt. 3 1977 Jul 8

"Beginnings of AA," 2 copies

 1 2 MK22 Big Meeting tape 2, New Orleans, Louisiana 1980

2 copies

 1 2 MK23 Cecil "Teet" Carl, Valley Club, Los Angeles, California 1983 Dec 4

"Those golden years" 2 copies

 1 2 MK24 Birthplace of AA, Gratitude Day, Old timers' panel undated 2 compact discs

From Dr. Bob's house, 2 copies

 1 2 MK25 John Parr, Founders Day, Akron, Ohio 1979 Jun 10

From Big Book (2nd ed.). 2 copies

 1 2 MK26 Ernest McKenzie, Tudor Group, New York 1952 Apr 6

"1 of first 100." 3 copies

 1 2 MK27 Kay Miller interview 1976 Dec 22

"Started AA in California." 2 copies

 1 2 MK28 Wynn Law, Laguna Beach, California undated

"25th year of sobriety" from Big Book. 2 copies

 1 2 MK29 Roy Yeargan interview, pt. 1 1976 Nov 13

2 copies

 1 2 MK30 Roy Yeargan interview, pt. 2 1976 Nov 13

2 copies

 1 2 MK31 Willis Kilgore talk 1962

2 copies

 1 2 MK33 Dewey Spies 1969 Jan 17

"1 of first 100." 1 copy

 1 2 MK34 Lee Roberts 1980 Aug

"Started AA in Atascadero [CA]." 2 copies

 1 2 MK35 Sybil Corwin, Los Angeles, California 1978 Aug

2 copies

1 2 MK36 Ernie Galbraith, Chicago, Illinois 1961

"1 of first 100." 2 copies

2 3 MK37 Claude Fullerton interview, Pasa Robles, California 1977 May 22 2 compact discs

2 copies

 2 3 MK38 Tom V. (Vassau), Kentucky State Convention, Louisville, Kentucky 1960 Feb

1 copy

 2 3 MK39 John Park Lee, Austin, Texas undated

2 copies

 2 3 MK40 Mort Joseph interview, Los Angeles, California 1978 Aug 2 compact discs

2 copies

 2 3 MK41 Larry Bowers interview by Wally Paton 1991 Aug 31

2 copies

 2 3 MK43 Ed R. Andy, Cleveland, Ohio 1987 Nov 16 2 compact discs

"Borton Group 48th anniversary." 2 copies

 2 3 MK44 Dave Cruikshawk, Winnipeg, Canada undated

2 copies

 2 3 MK45 Lefty Henderson, New Haven, Connecticut; Maryville, Tennessee 1957

2 copies

 2 3 MK47 First Old Timers meeting, Los Angeles, California 1975 Sep 12

Partial recording. 2 copies

 2 3 MK48 Arch Trowbridge interview 1948 Dec 25

"Radio broadcast and interview with Sarah Klien [sic]." 3 copies

 2 3 MK50 Ethel Macy and Sister Ignacia 1960

"Poor audio quality. Sister Ignacia at 1960 Convention." 1 copy

 2 3 MK51 Gert Behanna and Pastor Bill Kimball undated

"God Isn't Dead." 2 copies

 2 3 MK52 Good Old Days, Pioneer Luncheon, Seattle, Washington 1990

AA International Convention. 2 copies

 2 3 MK53 Jim Burwell 1968 Jun

"30th AA birthday." 2 copies

 2 3 MK54 Fay Chase interview 1977 May 8

2 copies

 2 4 MK55 Catherine Werling interview 1980 Aug 21

"First lady of Pasa Robles, California." 2 copies

 2 4 MK56 Walter King interview 1978 Aug

2 copies

 2 4 MK58 Old timers meeting 1980 Aug 2 compact discs

AA International Convention. 2 copies

 2 4 MK59 24th SENY Convention. 2: Oldtimers Panel undated

2 copies

 2 4 MK60 They led the way: AA pioneers, Seattle, Washington 1990 Jul 2 compact discs

AA International Convention. 2 copies

 2 4 MK61 Old timers in AA, Montreal, Canada 1985

AA International Convention. 2 copies

 2 4 MK62 Bill Wilson, John Daugherty, Sam Shoemaker 1960

2 copies

 2 4 MK63 Jim Burwell, Amarillo, Texas 1952 Nov 8

"The Vicious Cycle" from Big Book (3rd ed.). 1 of first 100. 2 copies

 2 4 MK64 Ralph Pfau (Fr. John Doe), Detroit, Michigan 1963

2 copies

 2 4 MK65 Warren Chisholm, Canton, Ohio 1964

AA #12. 2 copies

 2 4 MK68 Anne Craw, Monroe, Louisiana 1969 Mar 15

2 copies

 2 4 MK69 Dr. Bob collected talks 1947-1950

Last talk (1950). Detroit talk (1948). A talk on Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill W (no date). Smith Family greeting to Bill and Lois (1947). 2 copies

 2 4 MK70 Duke Paddock, Northern California 1963

Incomplete convention talk. 2 copies

 2 4 MK71 Duke Paddock interview, pt. 1 1978 Aug

2 copies

 2 4 MK72 Duke Paddock interview, pt. 2 1978 Aug

2 copies

 2 4 MK73 Duke Paddock interview, pt. 3 1978 Aug

2 copies

 3 5 MK74 Duke Paddock interview, pt. 4 1978 Aug

2 copies

 3 5 MK75 Clarence Snyder, Orchard Grove, [Indiana] 1974 Nov 11 2 compact discs

35th anniversary Orchard Grove group. 2 copies.

 5 10 MK76 Clarence Snyder undated

2 copies

 3 5 MK77 Nell Wing and Frank Mauser (tape 1) 1988 Aug 8 2 compact discs

General Services Office (GSO) archives. 2 copies

 3 5 MK78 Nell Wing and Frank Mauser (tape 2) 1988 Aug 8 2 compact discs

General Services Office (GSO) archives. 2 copies

 3 5 MK79 Clarence Snyder undated

Anniversary of the Borton group, first all AA group (Cleveland, Ohio). 2 copies

 3 5 MK80 Marty Mann, Hobbs, New Mexico 1964 Feb 1

"Talks about N.C.A. [National Council on Alcohosm] and alcoholism." 2 copies

 3 5 MK81 Clarence Snyder, Cleveland, Ohio 1974 Dec 11

2 copies

 3 5 MK82 Nell Wing and Frank Mauser, Pompano Beach, Florida, pt. 1 1984 Oct

2 copies

 3 5 MK83 Nell Wing and Frank Mauser, Pompano Beach, Florida, pt. 2 1984 Oct

2 copies

 3 5 MK84 Nell Wing and Frank Mauser, Pompano Beach, Florida, pt. 3 1984 Oct

2 copies

 3 5 MK85 Nell Wing and Frank Mauser, Pompano Beach, Florida, pt. 4 1984 Oct

2 copies

 3 5 MK86 Last talks of Ebby Thacher, Dr. Bob, Bill Wilson, Chuck Chamberlain, Brentwood, California 1983 Nov 2

2 copies

 3 5 MK87 Nancy Flynn, Kenneth Square, New York 1955

"The independent blonde," from Big Book (2nd ed.). Flynn was an early New York AA member. 2 copies

 3 5 MK88 Morris Barbour 1984 Jan 12

"A five time loser wins," from Big Book (3rd ed.). 2 copies

 3 5 MK89 Clarence and Grace Snyder, Palm Springs, California, pt. 1 1978 Nov 19-24

At Bill Rave's house. 2 copies

 3 6 MK90 Clarence and Grace Snyder, Palm Springs, California, pt. 2 1978 Nov 19-24

At Bill Rave's house. 2 copies

 3 6 MK91 Clarence and Grace Snyder, Palm Springs, California, pt. 3 1978 Nov 19-24

At Bill Rave's house. 2 copies

 3 6 MK92 Clarence and Grace Snyder, Palm Springs, California, pt. 4 1978 Nov 19-24

At Bill Rave's house. 2 copies

 3 6 MK93 Clarence and Grace Snyder, Palm Springs, California, pt. 5 1978 Nov 19-24

At Bill Rave's house. 2 copies

 3 6 MK94 Clarence and Grace Snyder, Palm Springs, California, pt. 6 1978 Nov 19-24

At Bill Rave's house. 2 copies

 3 6 MK95 Clarence and Grace Snyder, Palm Springs, California, pt. 7 1978 Nov 19-24

At Bill Rave's house. 2 copies

 3 6 MK96 Clarence and Grace Snyder, Palm Springs, California, pt. 8 1978 Nov 19-24

At Bill Rave's house. 2 copies

 3 6 MK97 Grace Snyder, Lancaster, California 1994 Aug 14

"Open door." 2 copies

 3 6 MK98 Clarence Snyder, Phoenix, Arizona, pt. 1 1982 Jul 11

Rummies Weekend Jamboree. 2 copies

 3 6 MK99 Clarence Snyder, Phoenix, Arizona, pt. 2 1982 Jul 11

Rummies Weekend Jamboree. 2 copies

 3 6 MK100 Clarence Snyder, Phoenix, Arizona, pt. 3 1982 Jul 11

Rummies Weekend Jamboree. 2 copies

 3 6 MK101 Clarence Snyder, Phoenix, Arizona, pt. 4 1982 Jul 11

Rummies Weekend Jamboree. 2 copies

 3 6 MK102 Grace Snyder, Eureka, California 1978 Nov 25

2 copies

 3 6 MK103 Clarence Snyder, Las Vegas, Nevada 1975 2 compact discs

"Only living member of the original 40." 2 copies

 3 6 MK104 Clarence Snyder. History of AA, pt. 1 undated

2 copies

 3 6 MK105 Clarence Snyder. History of AA, pt. 2 undated

2 copies

 3 6 MK106 Bill W. (Wilson), New York, New York 1955 Dec

History of the Manhattan group. 2 copies

 4 7 MK107 Bill W.(Wilson), New York, New York 1953 Dec

"From kitchen table to Rosary Hall, First anniversary." 2 copies

 4 7 MK108 Bill W. (Wilson), New Haven, Connecticut 1961

"Yale School of Alcohol Studies." 2 copies

4 7 MK109 Bill W. (Wilson) 35th anniversary dinner 1969 2 compact discs

2 copies

 4 7 MK111 Bill W. (Wilson) 18th anniversary undated

Founder's Day and Alanon talks from original audiocassette not included. 2 copies

4 7 MK112 Early AA history talk (probably Bill W.) undated

"Very poor audio." 2 copies

 4 7 MK114 Bill W. (Wilson) 34th anniversary 1968 Oct 5 2 compact discs

2 copies

 4 7 MK115 Rosary Hall, 1st anniversary, Cleveland, Ohio 1953

2 copies

 4 7 MK116 Bill W. (Wilson) 33rd anniversary 1967 Oct 7

2 copies

 4 7 MK118 Bill W. (Wilson), Fort Worth, Texas 1954

"Stories of the Big Book." 2 copies

 4 7 MK119 Bill W. (Wilson) Founder's Day, Akron, Ohio 1959 Jun 10

"Meeting Dr. Bob." 2 copies

 4 7 MK121 Clarence Snyder 40th anniversary, Winter Haven, Florida 1978 Feb

2 copies

 4 7 MK123 Clarence Snyder, Eureka, California 1977 Oct 22 2 compact discs

"Sober since February 11, 1938. His story and the 12 Steps of AA." 4 copies

 4 7 MK124 Clarence Snyder, Orange Grove, California 1974

"Introduction by Warren Chisholm." 2 copies

 4 8 MK126 Clarence Snyder, Old Timers Meeting, Miami, Florida 1970 Jul 4 2 compact discs

"25 years or more. Incomplete recording, troubled but bearable audio." 2 copies

 4 8 MK128 Al Steckman, Kentucky State Convention 1946 Feb 15

"First editor of the Grapevine." 2 copies

 4 8 MK129 A.D.Mason of Camden, Arizona undated

"Sober prior to AA conceptions." 2 copies

 4 8 MK130 Wynn Laws of Oxnard, California 1973 Jul 25

"Sober in 1947, died in 1973." 2 copies

 4 8 MK132 Bill Green, St. Louis, Missouri undated

Originally mislabeled MK124. 2 copies

 4 8 MK133 Dr. Earl Marsh 1954 Sep 19

2 copies

 4 8 MK134 Dr. Bob (Smith) and Bill W. (Wilson) undated

"Alcoholics Anonymous World Services (AAWS), Voices of our co-founders." 2 copies

 4 8 MK135 Elizabeth Bailey, Peekskill, New York 1982

Two copies mislabeled MK126. 4 copies

 4 8 MK136 Bob Pearson 1984 Feb 3

From Big Book (3rd ed.). 2 copies

 4 8 MK137 Bill Green from Nutley, New Jersey 1977 Jun 26

From Big Book (2nd ed.). 2 copies

 4 8 MK139 Marty Mann, University of Utah 1971

"History of drug dependence, the school and the community." 2 copies

 4 8 MK141 Marty Mann, Austin, Texas 1961 Jun 2

Also includes talk given in New Orleans, La., in 1980. 2 copies

 4 8 MK142 50 years of love and service: June 10,1935 to June 10, 1985. New York, New York 1985 Jun

2 copies

 4 8 MK143 Keith McC., Cleveland, Ohio 1988 Oct 20

Westside Morning Group. 2 copies

 4 8 MK149 Ethel Macy of Barberton, Ohio. undated

"Sober 5-8-41." 2 copies

 5 9 MK153 Roger Wetz, Elyria, Ohio undated

4 copies

 5 9 MK155 Charles Jackson, Vicksburg, Mississippi 1962 Jun 23

2 copies

 5 9 MK156 Ethel Macy of Barberton, Ohio 1962 Nov

Last talk. 3 copies

 5 9 MK157 Four Absolutes. Al S., Joe McG., Bob G., Ken K., Harry G. Whitney H. Indiana State University 1971 Apr 3

2 copies

 5 9 MK160 Clarence Snyder, Cleveland, Ohio 1974 2 compact discs

At the Borton Group. 2 copies

 5 9 MK161 Clarence Snyder, Charlie Culver 1974 2 compact discs

2 copies

 5 9 MK162 Clarence Snyder 1982 Mar 26

2 copies

 5 9 MK163 Ruth Hock 1978 Mar 12

"History of AA." 2 copies

 5 9 MK166 Clarence Snyder, Blackstone, Virginia 1963 Apr

2 copies

 5 9 MK167 Clarence Snyder, Lake Brownwood, Texas 1962 Sep 15

AA conference. 2 copies

 5 9 MK458 Sunday morning 1982 Mar 28 2 compact discs

Labeled MK122 but most likely MK458-459. 2 copies

 5 9 MK668 Sue Smith Windows, Dublin, Georgia 1988 Jul 9

Labeled MK121 but most likely MK668. 2 copies

 5 9 MK672 Marty Mann, San Francisco, California 1946 Dec 11 2 compact discs

Labeled MK125 but most likely MK672. 2 copies

 5 10 MK1-MK126.mp3 Data DVD: MK1-MK126 in mp3 files undated

1 copy

 Series 2 Clarence Snyder recordings 1958-1983

This is a subset of Series 1, containing copies of most of the Clarence Snyder talks from that series.

 5 10 3016a-b Clarence Snyder: Sober since February 11, 1938. Eureka, California 1977 Oct 22 2 compact discs 5 10 3017a-b Clarence Snyder: The 12 Steps of AA at Rummies Weekend. Phoenix, Arizona 1982 Nov 7 2 compact discs 5 10 3017c-d Clarence Snyder: Early growth and spread of AA from Cleveland, Ohio. At 2nd Oldtimers Day. Omaha, Nebraska 1983 Sep 17 2 compact discs 5 10 3017e Clarence Snyder: His story, with description of Oxford Group Meetings at T. Henry's 1958 Aug 28

Labeled 3017c.

 Series 3 Alcohol Awareness 1957-1993

Corresponds to audiocassette nos. EK169-EK240 from the Ernest Kurtz papers and audiocassettes (A2005.18 and A2008.049) with some gaps.

Digital access copies are available for all of the audiocassette tapes. Click on this link to request access to the digital copies: Ernest Kurtz (A2005.18) audio recordings

 5 10 EK169 Ernest Kurtz. Alcohol awareness, pt. 1 1985 Feb 23

Date on CD label corresponds to EK168 (1985 Apr 12). 2 copies

 5 10 EK170 Ernest Kurtz. Alcohol awareness, pt. 2 1985 Feb 23

2 copies

5 10 EK171 Ernest Kurtz. A Philosophical approach to spirituality 1984 Jun 15

2 copies

 5 10 EK172 Ernest Kurtz. The Historian plays prophet 1984 Jun 20 2 compact discs

2 copies of pt. 1; 1 copy of pt. 2.

 5 10 EK173 Ernest Kurtz. AA Approach to spirituality. Oregon 1989

Institute of Addiction Studies. 2 copies

 5 10 EK174 Ernest Kurtz. Why it works: an appreciation of AA. Oregon 1987

Institute of Addiction Studies. 2 copies

 5 10 EK175 Ernest Kurtz. Guilt and shame. Smyrna, Georgia 1981 Nov 21

Brawner Psychiatric Institute. 2 copies

 5 10 EK176 Ernest Kurtz. Significance of AA. Little Rock, Arkansas 1990 Jun 19

University of Arkansas at Little Rock. 2 copies

 5 10 EK177 Ernest Kurtz. Why it works: an appreciation of AA 1985

2 copies

 5 10 EK178 Mark Keller, pt. 1 1993 Aug 27 2 compact discs

3 copies of Tape 1 CD; 2 copies of Tape 2 CD.

 6 11 EK179 Mark Keller, pt. 2 1993 Aug 27

2 copies

 6 11 EK180 Mark Keller, pt. 3 1993 Aug 27 2 compact discs

2 copies

 6 11 EK181 Mark Keller, pt. 4 1993 Aug 27 2 compact discs 6 11 EK182 Mark Keller, pt. 5 1993 Aug 27

2 copies

 6 11 EK183 Mark Keller, pt. 6 1993 Aug 27

2 copies

 6 11 EK184 Ernest Kurtz undated

EK184 called "Tom White. Chiot the Way" on original audiocassette list. 2 copies

 6 11 EK185 Geraldine Delaney 1988

At RAAC. 2 copies

 6 11 EK189 Dr. Reuben Holden, Bill W. 1993 Mar 29

Black Mountain Group. 2 copies.

 6 11 EK190-191 Austin Ripley. Guest House history undated 2 compact discs

2 copies

 6 11 EK192 Archives meeting: Live and let live, Charleston, West Virginia, pt. 1 1992 Aug 12-15

48th Southeaster Regional Conference. 2 copies

 6 11 EK193 Archives meeting: Live and let live, Charleston, West Virginia, pt. 2 1992 Aug 12-15

48th Southeaster Regional Conference. 2 copies

 6 11 EK195 Bill W., Lake Orion, Michigan 1967 2 compact discs

2 copies

 6 11 EK196 Jerry Ellison 1978 Sep 29

2 copies

 6 11 EK197 Ernest Kurtz. Why it works, Portland, Oregon 1987 2 compact discs

Institute for Addiction Studies. 2 copies.

 6 12 EK198-199 Nell Wing 1976 Nov 15-19 2 compact discs

2 copies

 6 12 EK200 Lois Wilson 1977 Apr 7 2 compact discs

2 copies

 6 12 EK202 Einar Hansen. The Living History Book. Sacramento, California 1957

2 copies

 6 12 EK203 Ernest Kurtz at Rutgers University 1978 Dec 4

2 copies

 6 12 EK204 Russ Smith interview 1977 May 13

2 copies

 6 12 EK206 Lois Wilson 1976 Nov 16 2 compact discs

2 copies

 6 12 EK207 Nell Wing 1977 Apr 4-5

2 copies

 6 12 EK208 Nell Wing telephone call. 1977 May

2 copies

 6 12 EK209 Bill W. AA Traditions 1970 Nov 25

2 copies

 6 12 EK210 Jim Burwell. History of AA 1957 Jun 15

2 copies

 6 12 EK213 Warren Chisholm 1977 Sep 7

2 copies

 6 12 EK214 Warren Chisholm 1977 Sep 8

2 copies

 6 12 EK215 Anne Craw interview, pts. 1-2 1977 Sep 7 2 compact discs

2 copies

 6 12 EK216 Anne Craw interview, pt. 3 1977 Sep 7

2 copies

 6 12 EK217a Marty Mann interview, pt. 1 1977 Nov 15 2 compact discs `

2 copies. Copy 2 is in Box 13.

 7 13 EK217b-218 Marty Mann interview, pt. 2 1977 Nov 15

2 copies

 7 13 EK219 Dick Perez, Kevin Birk 1978 Sep 8

2 copies

 7 13 EK220 Fred Walker 1976 Nov 20 2 compact discs

3 copies

 7 13 EK223 Henrietta Seiberling 1977 Apr 6 2 compact discs

4 copies

 7 13 EK224 Clarence Snyder 1978 Oct 5-6

2 copies

 7 13 EK225 Clarence Snyder telephone call 1977 Aug 20

2 copies

 7 13 EK226 Clarence Snyder 1977 Oct 31

2 copies

 7 13 EK227 Clarence Snyder 1978 Oct 5 2 compact discs

2 copies

 7 13 EK228 Nell Wing and Niles Peebles 1977 Apr 5

2 copies

 7 13 EK229 Nell Wing and Niles Peebles 1977 Nov 14

2 copies

 7 13 EK232, 234, 236, 240:pt. 2 Nell Wing 1985-1986

EK232: Nell Wing on Lois; EK234: Nell Wing, 3-4-86; EK236: Nell Wing, 2-13-85; EK240:pt. 2: Nell Wing, 3-13-86. 2 copies

 7 14 EK233 Nell Wing 1986 Mar 27

2 copies

 7 14 EK235, 239 Nell Wing 1986 Mar 30-Apr 6

2 copies

 7 14 EK237 Nell Wing 1986 Apr 6

CD label marked: 4-6-86, but date on original Kurtz list is 3-30-86. 2 copies

 7 14 EK238 Nell Wing and Lois Wilson 1986 Mar 19

2 copies

 7 14 EK240: pt. 1 Nell Wing 1986 Mar 13

2 copies

 Series 4 Miscellaneous Alcoholics Anonymous recordings 1947-2004 7 14 AA1 Dr. Bob's last talk, Cleveland, Ohio 1950 Jul

1st International Alcoholics Anonymous Convention. 2 copies

 7 14 AA2 Smith Family 1947

"Smith Family greeting" recorded by George Hood for Bill W. 2 copies

 7 14 AA3 Dr. Bob, Detroit, Michigan 1948

Radio broadcast about the history of AA. 2 copies

 7 14 AA4 Bill W. (Wilson), Akron, Ohio, pt. 1 1965 Jun 5

First talk. 30th Founders Day. 2 copies

 7 14 AA5 Bill W. (Wilson), Akron, Ohio, pt. 2 1965 Jun 5

Second talk. 30th Founders Day. 2 copies

 7 14 AA6 Bill W. (Wilson), Des Moines, Iowa 1948 Nov 12

Anniversary for Ray Harrison, AA organizer in Iowa. 2 copies

 7 14 AA7 Ebby Thacher, Memphis, Tennessee 1958

2 copies

 7 14 AA8 Ebby Thacher, St. Louis, Missouri 1955

Hotel room recording. 2 copies

7 14 AA9 Ebby Thacher, Davenport, Iowa 1960

2 copies

 7 14 AA10 Ebby Thacher, San Jose, California 1961 Mar 5

2 copies

 7 14 AA11 Bill W. (Wilson) talk, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, pt. 1 1951

Talk on the history of AA. 2 copies

 7 14 AA12 Bill W. (Wilson) talk, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, pt. 2 1951

Talk on the history of AA at the Oklahoma State Convention. 2 copies

 7 14 AA13 Bill W. (Wilson), Forth Worth, Texas 1954

Talk about the Big Book at the Texas State Convention. 2 copies

 8 15 AA14 Bill W. (Wilson), Atlanta, Georgia 1951

History of AA, at the Atlanta State Convention. 2 copies

8 15 AA15 Bill W. (Wilson), Promotional recording 1947 Apr 1

"A talk on Alcoholics Anonymous" was originally released as an LP introduction to the organization. 2 copies

 8 15 AA16 Bill W. (Wilson), AA Milestones 1953

3rd General Services Conference. 2 copies

 8 15 AA17 Bill W. (Wilson), History of AA/Need for GSO, Chicago, Illinois, pt. 1 1951 Feb

2 copies

 8 15 AA18 Bill W. (Wilson), History of AA/Need for GSO, Chicago, Illinois, pt. 2 1951 Feb

2 copies

 8 15 AA19 Bill W. (Wilson), New York, New York 1967 Oct 7

33rd anniversary talk about Dr. Carl Young and the spiritual experience. 2 copies

 8 15 AA20 Bill W. (Wilson), New York, New York 1954

20th anniversary. 2 copies

 8 15 AA21 Bill W. (Wilson), New York, New York 1968 Oct 5

34th anniversary. 2 copies

 8 15 AA22 Bill W. (Wilson), New York, New York 1969 Oct 11

35th anniversary. 2 copies

 8 15 AA23 Bill W. (Wilson), University of Vermont 1960

2 copies

 8 15 AA24 Bill W. (Wilson), "The Story handed down." undated

2 copies

 8 15 AA25 Bill W. (Wilson), New York, New York 1960 Apr 20

10th General Service Conference. 2 copies

 8 15 AA26 Bill W. (Wilson), Dallas, Texas, pt. 1 1951 Feb

Adolphus Hotel. 2 copies

 8 15 AA27 Bill W. (Wilson), Dallas, Texas, pt. 2 1951 Feb

Adolphus Hotel. 2 copies

 8 15 AA28 Bill. W. (Wilson), Ethel Macy, Wally Gillam, Akron, Ohio 1956 Jun 24

21st Founders Day. 2 copies

 8 15 AA29 Bill W. (Wilson). California 1951 Jul 14

7th Southern California Convention (?). 2 copies

 8 15 AA30 Bill W. (Wilson). Symbolism and anonymity. Akron, Ohio 1960 Jun 5

25th Founders Day. 2 copies

 8 15 AA31 Bill W. (Wilson). Talks about Father Ed Dowling. Akron, Ohio 1960 Jun 5

25th Founders Day. 2 copies

 8 16 AA32 Bill W. (Wilson), Ebby Thacher, Lois Wilson, Sister Ignacia. Long Beach, California 1960 Jul

3rd International Convention. 2 copies

 8 16 AA33 Bill W. (Wilson), Sr. Ignacia undated

2 copies

 8 16 AA34 Sr. Ignacia. Long Beach, California 1970 Jul

3rd International Convention. 2 copies

 8 16 AA35 Bill W. (Wilson), Dr. Bob. Cleveland, Ohio 1950

1st International Convention. 2 copies

 8 16 AA36 Traditions meeting, 1st International Convention, Cleveland, Ohio, pt. 1 1950

From the Rockhill Records. 2 copies

 8 16 AA37 Traditions meeting, 1st International Convention, Cleveland, Ohio, pt. 2 1950

From the Rockhill Records. 2 copies

 8 16 AA38 Bill W. (Wilson). Beginnings of AA. St. Louis, Missouri 1955 Jul

2nd International Convention. 2 copies

 8 16 AA39 Bill W. (Wilson) and Lois Wilson. AA service and Al-Anon. St. Louis, Missouri 1955 Jul

2nd International Convention. 2 copies

 8 16 AA40 Bill W. (Wilson). 12 traditions. St. Louis, Missouri 1955 Jul

2nd International Convention. 2 copies

 8 16 AA41 Father Ed Dowling, Rev. Sam Shoemaker, Bill W. (Wilson). St. Louis, Missouri 1955 Jul

2nd International Convention. 2 copies

 8 16 AA42 Bill W. (Wilson), Lois Wilson. AA Today and Tomorrow; Growth of Al-Anon, Long Beach, California, pt. 1 1960 Jul

3rd International Convention. 2 copies.

 8 16 AA43 Bill W. (Wilson), Lois Wilson. AA Today and Tomorrow; Growth of Al-Anon, Long Beach, California, pt. 2 1960 Jul

3rd International Convention. 2 copies.

 8 16 AA44 Ruth Hock. About the Big Book. Glendale, California 1978 Mar 12

2 copies

 8 16 AA45 Bill W. (Wilson), Harry Green telephone call 1951

2 copies

 8 16 AA46 Lois Wilson. 12 Traditions. Long Beach, California 1955 Aug 15

2 copies

 8 16 AA47 Lois Wilson. AA history. Dallas, Texas 1973 May 29

2 copies

 8 16 AA48 Lois Wilson. San Luis Obispo, California 1975 Jul 25

5 copies; copy 5 in Box 17.

 9 17 AA49 Bill W. (Wilson), Lois Wilson. Toronto, Ontario, Canada 1965 Jul

4th International Convention. 2 copies

 9 17 AA50 Bob Smith, Jr. (son of Dr. Bob), Houston, Texas 2000 Nov

10th Spirit of Houston. 2 copies

 9 17 AA51 Bob Smith, Jr. (Dr. Bob's son). Waterbury, Connecticut 1999 Mar 27

Al-Anon Convention. 2 copies

 9 17 AA52 Sue Smith Windows. Akron, Ohio (?) 1988 May 28

Heritage Night. 2 copies

 9 17 AA53 Sue Smith Windows. Phoenix, Arizona 1996 Feb 10

3rd Southwest Archives. 2 copies

 9 17 AA54 Ernie Galbraith. Fort Wayne, Indiana undated

Fort Wayne Conference. 2 copies

 9 17 AA55 Rev. Sam Shoemaker. Charlotte, North Carolina 1962 Jun

2 copies

 9 17 AA56 Rev. Sam Shoemaker. Four Sermons undated

From the LP. Not specifically related to AA. 2 copies

 9 17 AA57 Nell Wing. How it was with Bill and Lois. Garden City, New York 1992 Jun 10

2 copies

 9 17 AA58 Nell Wing. AA During the 1940's. New York, New York 1992 Aug 17

2 copies

 9 17 AA59 Nell Wing. Phoenix, Arizona 1994 Apr 19

Golden Age Speakers Meeting. 2 copies

 9 17 AA60 Nell Wing. Vermont 1987

20th Vermont State Convention. 2 copies

 9 17 AA61 Nell Wing. Phoenix, Arizona 1994 Feb 12

Southwest Archives. 2 copies

 9 17 AA62 Dr. Harry Tiebout. Long Beach, California 1960 Jul

3rd International Convention. 2 copies

 9 17 AA63 Dr. Harry Tiebout. St. Louis, Missouri 1955

2nd International Convention. 2 copies

 9 17 AA64 Lynn Carroll. Blackstone, Virginia ca. 1965

Founder of Hazeldon. 2 copies

 9 17 AA65 Rollie Hemsley. Washington, D.C. 1968 Apr 26

23rd Cosmopolitan Group Anniversary. 2 copies

 9 18 AA66 Anne Craw. Cleveland, Ohio (?) 1972 Jan 31

2 copies

 9 18 AA67 Father Ralph Pfau undated

"Decisions." 2 copies

 9 18 AA68 Father Ralph Pfau. The 12 Steps, pt. 1 undated

First priest in AA. 2 copies

 9 18 AA69 Father Ralph Pfau. The 12 Steps, pt. 2 undated

First priest in AA. 2 copies

 9 18 AA70 Clarence Snyder. Hawaii 1980

Hawaii State Convention. 2 copies

 9 18 AA71 Clarence Snyder, Phoenix, Arizona, pt. 1 1982 Nov 7

Rummies Weekend. 2 copies

 9 18 AA72 Clarence Snyder, Phoenix, Arizona, pt. 2 1982 Nov 7

Rummies Weekend. 2 copies

 9 18 AA73 Clarence Snyder, Omaha, Nebraska, pt. 1 1983 Sep 17

2nd Oldtimers Day. 2 copies

 9 18 AA74 Clarence Snyder, Omaha, Nebraska, pt. 2 1983 Sep 17

2nd Oldtimers Day. 2 copies

 9 18 AA75 Clarence Snyder 1958 Aug 28

Seminar Group. 2 copies

 9 18 AA76 Clarence Snyder. Laurel Hill, North Carolina 1960 May 6

1st Camp Monroe Retreat. 2 copies

 9 18 AA77 Clarence Snyder, Richmond, California, pt. 1 1973 Jun 10

2 copies

 9 18 AA78 Clarence Snyder, Richmond, California, pt. 2 1973 Jun 10

2 copies

 9 18 AA79 Clarence Snyder, Winter Haven, Florida, pt. 1 1982 Feb 9

44th year sober. 2 copies

 9 18 AA80 Clarence Snyder, Winter Haven, Florida, pt. 2 1982 Feb 9

44th year sober. 2 copies

 9 18 AA81 Clarence Snyder. Alexandria, Virginia 1982 Jun 20

Wilson Social Club. 2 copies

 9 18 AA82 Clarence Snyder. Blackstone, Virginia 1963 Apr 1 9 18 AA83 Jim Burwell. Sacramento, California 1957 Jun 15

Big Book. 2 copies

 10 19 AA84 Jim and Rosa Burwell. San Diego, California 1974 Aug 17

2 copies

 10 19 AA85 Jim Burwell. Amarillo, Texas 1952 Jan 15

Top o' Texas. 2 copies

 10 19 AA86 Jim Burwell. Palm Springs, California 1963 Jan 18

2 copies

 10 19 AA87 Marty Mann. San Francisco, California 1968 Oct 4

2 copies

 10 19 AA88 Marty Mann. New York, New York 1971 Apr 15

11th Al-Anon Family Groups World Service Conference. 2 copies

 10 19 AA89 Marty Mann. St. Louis, Missouri 1972 Mar 22

National Council on Alcoholism Chapter meeting. 2 copies

 10 19 AA90 Marty Mann. Louisville, Kentucky 1966 Feb 1

14th Kentucky State Conference. 2 copies

 10 19 AA91 Marty Mann. Little Rock, Arkansas 1965 Aug 1

Arkansas State Convention. 2 copies

 10 19 AA92 Bill Green undated

Author of "There's Nothing the Matter with Me" from Big Book, 2nd ed. 2 copies

 10 19 AA93 Paul Stanley. Blythe, Illinois 1964

2 copies

 10 19 AA94 John Parr. Akron, Ohio 1976 Jun 23

Author of "The Professor and the Paradox" from Big Book, 2nd ed. Founders Day talk. 2 copies

 10 19 AA95 Sackville O'Connor Millins. Houston, Texas 1957 May 20

Talk about the first AA group in Ireland. 2 copies

 10 19 AA96 Chet Rude. Santa Barbara, California 1953 Oct 10

"It Might Have Been Worse." 2 copies

 10 19 AA97 Helen Brown. Louisville, Kentucky 1952 Feb 7

1st Kentucky State Conference. 2 copies

 10 19 AA98 Esther Alasardia. Lubbock, Texas 1953

Author of "Flower of the South" from Big Book, 3rd ed. 2 copies

 10 19 AA99 Esther Alasardia. St. Louis, Missouri 1955 Jul

2nd International Convention. 2 copies

 10 19 AA100 Joe Minor undated

Author of "Joe's Woes" from Big Book, 2nd ed.

 10 19 AA101 Dr. Earl Marsh. Kansas City, Kansas 1991 May 25

50th Anniversary of AA. 2 copies

 10 20 AA102 Dr. Earl Marsh. Jacksonville, Florida 1960 Aug

16th Southeast Conference. 2 copies

 10 20 AA103 Maynard Bernard undated

Author of "Join the Tribe" from Big Book, 3rd ed. 2 copies

 10 20 AA104 Bob P. Queens, New York 1991 Jun 18

Author of "AA Taught Him to Handle Sobriety" from Big Book, 3rd ed.

 10 20 AA105 Jim Scott. St. Louis, Missouri 1955

Author of "Jim's Story" from Big Book, 2nd and 3rd eds. 2 copies

 10 20 AA106 Wynn Laws 1972

Author of "Freedom from Bondage" from Big Book, 2nd and 3rd eds. 2 copies

 10 20 AA107 Beth Hartley. Omaha, Nebraska 2002 Mar 15

At Luck o' the Irish. 2 copies

 10 20 AA108 Beth Hartley. Cincinnati, Ohio 2001 May 4

Author of "Empty on the Inside" from Big Book, 4th ed. 2 copies

 10 20 AA109 Lyle P. Albuquerque, New Mexico 1999 May 1

6th Red Road Convention. 2 copies

 10 20 AA110 Trowbridge, Archie. Detroit, Michigan 1948 Dec 25

Radio broadcast. 2 copies

 10 20 AA111 Bill Dotson. Canton, Ohio 1950

Author of "Alcoholics Anonymous Number 3" from Big Book, 2nd ed. 2 copies

 10 20 AA112 Dr. Paul Ohliger. Atlantia, Georgia 1977

33rd Southeastern Convention. 2 copies

 10 20 AA113 Dr. Paul Ohliger. Fort Worth, Texas 1990 Apr 4

10th Anniversary Legacy Group. 2 copies

 10 20 AA114 Dr. Paul Ohliger and Maxine Ohliger. 1995 Nov 25

6th Gratitude Roundup. 2 copies

 10 20 AA115 Dr. Paul Ohliger, Olympia, Washington, pt. 1 1999 Jun 6

8th Capital Jamboree. 2 copies

 10 20 AA116 Dr. Paul Ohliger, Olympia, Washington, pt. 2 1999 Jun 6

8th Capital Jamboree. 2 copies

 10 20 AA117 Dr. Paul Ohliger. Punta Cana, Dominican Republic 2000 Feb 26

Sober Vacation No. 22. 2 copies

 10 20 AA118 Dr. Paul Ohliger and Ena G. Laguna Beach, California 1989 Sep 30

50th Anniversary of Big Book. 2 copies

 10 20 AA119 Father Joseph Martin. Laguna Beach, California 1989 Sep 30

50th Anniversary of Big Book. 2 copies

 11 21 AA120 Chuck Chamberlain. Palm Desert, California 1974 May 1

The 12 Steps. 2 copies

 11 21 AA121 Chuck Chamberlain. California 1982 Nov 10

2 copies

 11 21 AA122 Chuck and Elsa Chamberlain, Blackstone, Virginia, pt. 1 1963 Apr 27

Blackstone Retreat. 2 copies

 11 21 AA123 Chuck and Elsa Chamberlain, Blackstone, Virginia, pt. 2 1963 Apr 27

Blackstone Retreat. 3 copies

 11 21 AA124 Paul Kiebler. Omaha, Nebraska 1987 Sep 26

6th Oldtimers Day. 2 copies

 11 21 AA125 Paul Kiebler. New Orleans, Louisiana 1988 Apr 8

20th Deep South Conference. 2 copies

 11 21 AA126 Paul Kiebler undated

"Four Absolutes as Spiritual Tools." 2 copies

 11 21 AA127 Paul Kiebler 1984 Nov 1

Plan for Daily Living. 2 copies

 11 21 AA128 Paul Kiebler. Grand Forks, North Dakota 1988 Sep 27

North Dakota State Convention. 2 copies

 11 21 AA129 Paul Kiebler 1984 Jul 15

"Lest We Forget." 2 copies

 11 21 AA130 Duke Paddock 1992 Jun 9

Also includes talks from a 1995 convention in San Diego. 2 copies

 11 21 AA131 James Houck. East Dorset, Vermont 1996 Mar 15

"AA, the World's Greatest Spiritual Movement." 2 copies

 11 21 AA132 James Houck. Kingwood, Texas 1998 Oct 19

2 copies

 11 21 AA132 "50 Years of AA in Virginia." Arlington, Virginia 1998 Oct 19

41st Virginia Area Convention. Speakers: Billy Kidd, Ruth Dickens, Earl F., Nora S. 2 copies

 11 21 AA134 Eve Marsh. Washington, D.C. 1983 Aug 19

1983 Congressional Luncheon. 2 copies

 11 21 AA135 Al Badger. Birmingham, Alabama 1954

1954 Alabama AA Conference. 2 copies

 11 21 AA136 F. E. "Bud" Rose. Fort Myers, Florida 1969 Apr 3

2 copies

 11 22 AA137 Gert Behanna. Cleveland, Ohio 1966 May 14

Statler Hotel. 2 copies

 11 22 AA138 Tom Vassau. Cleveland, Ohio 1963

2 copies

 11 22 AA139 Bob I., Tom Sharp, Peter (from Iceland) 1980 July

7th AA Convention. 2 copies

 11 22 AA140 Mercedes McCambridge. Little Rock, Arkansas 1973 Mar 15

2 copies

 11 22 AA141 Mercedes McCambridge. Warren, Ohio 1969 Aug 10

2 copies

 11 22 AA142 Sen. Harold Hughes. Des Moines, Iowa 1970 Aug 8

2 copies

 11 22 AA-Database Series 4 database 2004 Mar 25 11 1 Interview with Tom Laperriere March 24 and 25, 2004, on his catalog of CDs donated to Brown University 2004 Mar 24-25